Spirituality is bulshit and masters are nonsense!

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By: Ed Yourdon

Every moment the brain is catching thousands of signals. You have periods in the day when the number of signals is very high and periods when it is relatively very low, so to give an exact figure of these signals is impossible.

If you consider only about your ‘thoughts’ then research done on the average number of thoughts that humans are believed to experience each 24 hours during their life is said to be approximately 70,000. And every seeker on the spiritual path wants to observe all these thoughts and stay in the state of permanent alertness which is also known as samadhi, nirvana or enlightenment.

Do you have time to observe all these 70,000 thoughts? Is it possible for a normal human being to observe each and every thought? In other words can you stay into witnessing consciousness for 24 hours?

Your thoughts continue whatever you are doing. It doesn’t matter whether you are asleep or you are awake, mind is always going on and on.

And there is much more happening in your brain than your thoughts. So that is why we are getting very many millions of signals per 24 hours, and this happens just as much within the brains and CNS (Central nervous system) of the most brilliant as with the most mentally retarded humans.

Are you with me?

Now, the question is how to become aware of all those signals!

All so called spiritual masters are preaching you since centuries about witnessing, observation, awareness or sakshi-bhav. But if you use simple common sense then you will realize that it is not possible to observe all those signals and thoughts even for the greatest Messiahs of mankind in the whole history.

They say watch your thoughts, become more aware, observe every emotion.

Thats why I say that all spirituality is bulshit and all masters are nonsense. They are expecting something which is just impossible for you.

Our brainstem is concerned mainly with control of our vital functions such as breathing and blood pressure none of which is part of our conscious thoughts. And our cerebellum with muscular coordination and posture and the thousands of signals to control these are going through us without our realising 24 hours per day and 365 days per year including the approximate 33% of our life when we are asleep, and without even a moment’s cessation when we are alive. It is extremely rare that any of these control signals are part of the individual’s constant thoughts but we all know they happen in us.

For example how often do you actually think about your breathing that goes on all the time, and its frequency and when to breathe in and breath out? Only when there is some unusual reason for you to do so, such as you are trying to meditate (Vipassana or mindfulness meditation) or you are in the doctor’s clinic and he tells you when to breathe in or out. But for 99.9999 recurring percent of your life while your brainstem is telling your heart and lungs when to breathe in and out, you have no concious thought of this happening nor of your heart beating.

Now take the example of  ‘observer’. This observer is a part of mind. Mind has the capasity to observe itself. That’s why I say that this observer is not static or some separate entity apart from your mind. This observer is changing all the time. If the observer and the observed are the same thing then the moment the observed (object) changes, the observer will also change.

There is a school of thought which says ‘the obserever is observed’. Means when there is nothing left to obsereve then the obserever observes itself and that state is believed to be enlightenment. That state is also known as absolute awareness or Hosh (in Hindi).

I say, when there is nothing to obsereve the obserever is also gone. It is finished. The observer is illusion created by the things which he is observing, ie. thoughts. The observer and the observed are not two things. They are one. And the observer and the observed goes permanently only when you are dead. Meantime you can just continue to play the game of observer and the observed. That is what meditation is all about.

Once a Journalist asked Einstein, “Can you explain relativity in a few sentences?”

Einstein replied, “It was formarly belived that if all material things disappeared out of the universe then time and space would be left. According to the relativity theory, however, time and space disappear together with the things”.

The same way this so called observer (sakshi, alertness, awareness, hosh, surati or you may call it any bulshit) disappears the moment when there is nothing to observe. This observer is created by the thought, by the desire to get freedom or to become enlightened. You can not remain alert without the intention of being alert and that intention itself is a thought. Means, this so called alertness is the child of your DESIRE, your THOUGHT.

34 thoughts on “Spirituality is bulshit and masters are nonsense!”

  1. The writer of this article is a raging lunatic. His beliefs are completely screwed up, and is making other’s believe his outrageous conclusions (which aren’t based on facts).
    “That’s why I say that this observer is not static or some separate entity apart from your mind. This observer is changing all the time. If the observer and the observed are the same thing then the moment the observed (object) changes, the observer will also change.” I laughed so hard at this that my jaw still hurts…..
    You are completely clueless because you probably don’t know what is going in the field of Quantum mechanics and the Unified field theory. Do your research before you write such a load of crap…you idiot..
    Who ON EARTH told you to observe each and every thought?….omfg…this is hilarious..
    I expect you to respond to this, so that i can cure you from your delusions…you need help

    1. Hello SuckMyDi*k,
      Does your mom call you by this name?

      Strange people..

      And what is your fathers name?
      Di*kHead?

      Anyway,
      You said, “The writer of this article is a raging lunatic. His beliefs are completely screwed up, and is making other’s believe his outrageous conclusions (which aren’t based on facts)”.
      Yes, I’m lunatic and my beliefs are completely screwed up but I’m not forcing anybody to believe in my outrageous conclusions. You are here with your own choice.

      You said, “I laughed so hard at this that my jaw still hurts…..”
      Yes, that is what I want from my readers, a good laughter!

      You said, “You are completely clueless because you probably don’t know what is going in the field of Quantum mechanics and the Unified field theory. Do your research before you write such a load of crap…you idiot..”
      I don’t bother about any quantum mechanics or the Unified theory and I’m not interested in any research. Perhaps my blog is full of crap and contradictory statements. Here I write just for my fun. If you are searching for the truth then find it somewhere else. This is not a right place for you.

      You said, “I expect you to respond to this, so that i can cure you from your delusions…you need help”
      Usually I don’t respond to cowards like you who hide their true identity but still I published your comment with my reply because you said I expect you to respond you to this as if you are asking very intelligent question.

      Your name shows that you are pervert and sick and you yourself need good treatment so first cure yourself from your delusions and then come to me and ask properly. Do you think that I would discuss about quantum physics with such a di*khead like you?

  2. First of all thanks for your post. its really good. I have been doing these kind of meditations for past few years for an example watching the thoughts the emotions the breath etc… one thing that I was not able to understand that these masters said for an example osho says just watch the thoughts and by and by they will get slow and one day there wont be any more thoughts and you will realize what you are…now when there are contents in mind i can see that, when there is no content i can see that…. now as you said mind has the power to observe itself, this what i always wanted to confirm that when i can see that there are contents in mind and sometimes no contents in mind, whats the difference does it make and yes mind goes on and on it never stops even when i am working or playing or writing this comment.

    I never found anything transforming in these practices may be I am wrong but that’s what i have experienced and these practices sometimes made me feel like a robot u watch all the things all the time how can u go on like that and all the juice of life goes away in this way. But again the question comes that all these talks about freedom and perfect peace are lies…… what’s your comment on this… will be waiting for your reply.

    thanks.

    1. Hello Aditya, you asked, “I always wanted to confirm that when I can see that there are contents in mind and sometimes no contents in mind, whats the difference does it make?”

      The difference is very simple. The differnce is just like watching a page full of content and watching a page which is totally blank.

      When there are clouds you can not see the sky but when there are no clouds you can see the sky. Thoughts are like clouds. Most of us are totally focused on these clouds. These clouds of fear, anger, hatread, frustration, depretion etc dominates our life. But when you observe these clouds you become aware of the sky or the space between two clouds. In that space you find peace.

      You said, “Mind goes on and on it never stops..”

      There is no need to stop it. Simply keep observing it in differnt shapes, sizes and colors. In that observation itself you will automatically escape from it’s hold. Mind is beautiful mechanism. Instead of trying to get rid of it or stop it simply observe it. It is not your enemy. I’m using my mind while replying your comment.

      You said, “I never found anything transforming in these practices..”
      But you can not ask this question without any finding. You know something and from that uderstanding arses this question. The question which you asked is not a superficial. Very few people ask such type of questions. This question arised in your mind because you find that the scriptures and masters are not matching with your own observation or realization.

      You said, “I never found anything transforming in these practices..”
      I think this is the most insightful part of your question. Most people never accept that all they learend on there spiritual journey was just crap.

      You said,”What I have experienced and these practices sometimes made me feel like a robot, you watch all the things all the time how can you go on like that and all the juice of life goes away in this way”.

      What a great insight!
      I love this one!
      Now you know ‘what NOT to do’.
      You realized how ‘juice of life’ goes away in this way.

      You said, “But again the question comes that all these talks about freedom and perfect peace are lies”
      Okay, now go slow from here, tell me what happens when you see very clearly that all these talks about freedom and perfect peace are lies?

      Aditya, if you really come to this realization that all these talks about freedom and perfect peace are lies then you will stop all your search. This will be the ending of your search. Then all gurus, practice and holy books are finished. Then everything which you collected in the name of spirituality should be totally out from your system. Because it is all useless. It is just garbage.

      Then what happens?
      You are simply here and now. Your mind is empty from all borrowed knowledge. And there is no hope. Religion, gurus and their techniques can not give you freedom or peace. You see this very clearly and this topic is finished.

      Just see the beauty of this.

      Now simply enjoy the juice of life every moment. Forget about freedom, perfect peace, mind and observer. Animals, birds and trees never have any spiritual questions that’s why they are free and in perfect peace. Their minds are not corrupted by spiritaul teachers and messihas. That’s why they enjoy the juice of life.

      You will automatically know what is freedom and perfect peace when you start enjoying the juice of life. Even if you don’t know what is freedom and perfect peace at least you will enjoy the juice of life.

  3. MG,

    I understand that my previous comment has offended you, as some of the things i said were pretty obnoxious, so my apologies. Honestly some of the things you mentioned in the post are a little outrageous, so we have to agree to disagree here. I am not trying to prove you wrong, as you are entitled to your opinion. The reason why people think that spirituality has no meaning is because these days it has been highly ‘commercialized’ and is looked at as a very lucrative way to fool clueless folks. This has given rise to a lot of pretentious ‘gurus’ (if you can call them that) who end up preaching stuff that is far from authentic and confusing.

    You said: “Aditya, if you really come to this realization that all these talks about freedom and perfect peace are lies then you will stop all your search. This will be the ending of your search. Then all gurus, practice and holy books are finished. Then everything which you collected in the name of spirituality should be totally out from your system. Because it is all useless. It is just garbage.” OK, so this means that ancient Indian texts like the Vedas, Bhagvad Gita, Ramanaya & Mahabharata are preaching garbage…? I hardly think so. All modern day spiritual gurus (and i mean the authentic ones) preach or rather simplify what has been written in these great Indian texts. Religions the world over are based on Hinduism- as it addresses the very fundamental aspect of existence. Even the Bible has 90% of Hindu teachings.
    I would like to point out that our experience in terms of spirituality is very limited, and based on this limited experience it is pretty absurd to debunk spiritual teachings altogether.

    In recent times, the experiments being conducted in the LHC (Large Hardon Collider) are beginning to discover some fundamental realities which were described in the Vedas thousands of years ago. There is no ‘matter’ as such as it completely disappears when it is studied at its deepest most fundamental level ( if we go beyond sub-nuclear particles like quarks and
    leptons). So what lies beneath everything physical that we see in the universe is a single field of existence or consciousness. This field of intelligence is self aware, and gives rise to creation. This is what the Indian texts are referring to when they mention Aatma(the Self) or the observer. There is an overwhelming amount of scientific evidence that proves these findings.

    In my opinion the very goal if spirituality is to take your awareness to the level of the observer and being one with it by transcending the mind, not wrestling with it (which is taught by some hippies who call themselves ‘gurus’), so that the only thing that remains is pure awareness or consciousness. There are several ways of attaining this state of awareness some are simple and some are overwhelmingly complex. That’s why it is very important to follow the right method and also the one which is the simplest. If you have had bad experiences, it certainly does not mean that it is BS…..
    Awaiting your response….

    1. Hello don’tsuckmydi*k, still there is a di*k in your head. Either you say ‘suck’ or you say ‘don’t suck’ your mind is still stucked on the same thing. Look what ancient religion has done to your mind. You are unnessasary carring the burden of few grams on your brain. Though it is very small burden, it is still a bruden.

      You said, “I understand that my previous comment has offended you, as some of the things i said were pretty obnoxious, so my apologies.”

      Offended?

      No, not at all. Your comments can not offend me.

      You brought me a gift, may be of insults but I don’t accept it. Suppose if you bring a gift for your neighbour and he refuse to accept it then what will you do? Obviously that gift will come back to you. So, my good friend no need for apologies.

      You said,”The reason why people think that spirituality has no meaning is because these days it has been highly ‘commercialized’ and is looked at as a very lucrative way to fool clueless folks. This has given rise to a lot of pretentious ‘gurus’ (if you can call them that) who end up preaching stuff that is far from authentic and confusing.”

      This site exist from 5 years. First three years it was hosted on a free server so there is no question of comercialization. I’m not selling anything to people and I’m not collecting donations.

      You said,”OK, so this means that ancient Indian texts like the Vedas, Bhagvad Gita, Ramanaya & Mahabharata are preaching garbage…? I hardly think so. All modern day spiritual gurus (and i mean the authentic ones) preach or rather simplify what has been written in these great Indian texts. Religions the world over are based on Hinduism- as it addresses the very fundamental aspect of existence. Even the Bible has 90% of Hindu teachings..”

      Which guru is authentic? What is the criteria? How will you decide that a perticulr guru is authentic? Do you mean that if someone preaching vedas or bible like a parrot then he is authentic?

      You said, “Religions the world over are based on Hinduism- as it addresses the very fundamental aspect of existence. Even the Bible has 90% of Hindu teachings.”

      …and still they are fighting with each other? What is similar between Vedas, Bible and Quran? And if their teaching contain 90% of Hindu teaching then why the fcuk they are killing each other? That means your religions are creating a lunatic society, a mad culture.

      You said, “All modern day spiritual gurus (and i mean the authentic ones) preach or rather simplify what has been written in these great Indian texts.”

      Who are the authentic gurus according to your point of view? What makes you believe that they are REALLY authentic? Do you spy on them 24 hours?

      I don’t belong to that herd. I have my own visions. I’m not a parrot. I’m not interested in symlifying the great Indian text.

      You said,”In recent times, the experiments being conducted in the LHC (Large Hardon Collider) are beginning to discover some fundamental realities which were described in the Vedas thousands of years ago. There is no ‘matter’ as such as it completely disappears when it is studied at its deepest most fundamental level ( if we go beyond sub-nuclear particles like quarks and leptons).”

      Whenever a new discovery happens, Indian schollars claim that it is already described in our ancient text.

      Give me the AUTHETIC record with DATE, TIME and LOCATION which could SCIENTIFICALLY prove that this kind of experiments were conducted in India.

      You said, In my opinion the very goal if spirituality is to take your awareness to the level of the observer and being one with it by transcending the mind, not wrestling with it (which is taught by some hippies who call themselves ‘gurus’), so that the only thing that remains is pure awareness or consciousness.”

      This is YOUR OPINION and not your EXPERIENCE. Means it is already DOUBTFUL.

      You said, “There are several ways of attaining this state of awareness some are simple and some are overwhelmingly complex. That’s why it is very important to follow the right method and also the one which is the simplest. If you have had bad experiences, it certainly does not mean that it is BS…..”

      ‘Several ways’ means exactly how many ways?

      Which ways are simple and which ways are complex?

      Exactly what makes you feel that the way is ‘overwhelmingly complex’?

      Have you ever tried them?

      By the way where do you want to go?

      And how will you decide which method is the right and which one is simple for any perticular individual?

      What exactly you mean by ‘state of awareness’?

      What will you do by attaining this state?

      Why do you want to attain this state?

      How will you know that you attained this state?

      From your comment it seems that you are very much proud of your ancient culture, tradition, scriptures and texts. Aren’t you? Then tell me what are you doing to protect it? Actually you are insulting your own precious culture by calling yourself by ugly names like ‘suckmydi*k’.

      Remember, here you are a representative of this old precious culture and you should not call yourself with some ugly name. Here you are discussing with someone about ‘Aatma (the Self) or the observer’ and what your scriptures are preaching about soul.

      Just imagine how will you feel if somebody serve you delicious food in a very dirty plate? Will you eat it? If you are representing your precious culture then you must behave very sober and decent. People will observe you before they listen to your message. They will say, “Look, here comes ‘suckmydi*k’ and he has brought a great message of ancient Indian scriptures!”

      Finally ‘why’ I debunk all spiritual teaching altogether?

      Whenever a disciple comes to a Zen master happy with attainment and says, “I have attained emptiness” the master says, “Throw that ’emptiness’ away. Don’t bring it to me again!”. Even the ’emptiness’ is the burden and you are carrying the burden of the whole tradition of thousands of centuries on your shoulders.

      I debunk all spiritual teaching altogether simply to make you empty of all borrowed knowledge and finally I will also debunk your ’emptiness’. There is no other way.

  4. Hi MG,
    A zen koan sais: “One day a myriapod was walking gently through the forest when an ant asked him: how he can you do it, how can you master all your parts and walk?!. From that moment the myriapod did not know how to walk anymore.”

    I heard this koan a long time ago but recently it started showing through my thoughts and I’ve understood the similarity to my own pain. I feel exactly like the myriapod, somehow the role I’ve been playing all my life, I can’t hide behind it no more, I don’t know how to play it no more, and I find myself frozen in fear each time I am approached by somebody and I don’t know how to react or what action to chose, until a while I was on a autopilot self but know I am a paralyzed pilot.

    This is my inner slum life for a while now and I really want to break whatever this is.

    Does all this makes sense to you ?

    1. Hello Dan,

      Life is already perfect but when you look into scriptures and philosophies to make it more perfect then the real problem begins. Then you become like a ‘myriapod’ who is decribed in the story.

      The story says that there was a frog who was a philosopher. Once he saw a myriapod (myriapod or centipede walks with hundred legs) and become very shocked. It was like a great miracle for him to walk and manage 100 legs. So he asked myriapod how he manage his 100 legs. Myriapod never had this question in his life. As frog asked him this question he begin to observe how he manages his every movement and every leg at each step and he became utterly confused. His analysis and thinking obstucted the natural flow or movement of his legs.

      Similarly, in life, if you go with the flow then there is no problem but if you start judging your every acton with holy books and philosophies then the problem begins. This knowledge will obstruct your natural flow. Then you will get confused. Because so many principles and guidelines of how to live, what is right and what is wrong. Vedas, Quaran, Bible, Dhammapada, Zen and Tao they will all give you different views, guidelines and priciples.

      Deep down you know what to do in a particular situation. You know how to deal with a person, a problem or a situation. But you never allow your natural intelligence to flow freely. You try to find a redy-made answer and impose that answer upon you. That ready made answer does not fit or match with your situation properly.

      There is a sponteneous right action in every moment. You have to give yourself a chance. You have to trust yourself more than books and knowledge.

      Whenever a problem arises you look into the vast storehouse of knowledge (mind or memory) or you look into the books. You compaire what authorities have suggested in this particular situation. This process creates obstuction. Then you lose your confidence. Then you become exactly like a myriapod described in the story.

      Just empty your mind and go with the flow. Too much thinking is the problem. Too much analysis is the problem. Just let go and you will not have any problem. Empty your mind and enter into the action. Then you will not have any problem.

  5. Hi MG!

    I wonder if I misunderstand you. You say ” This observer is changing all the time.” and “. This observer is created by the thought, by the desire to get freedom or to become enlightened.”.

    But in my perception awareness doesn’t change. “I” don’t change. The simple seeing is the same as it was when I was a child.

    So could you clarify what you meant?

    Greetings, Kapeh

    1. Hello Kapeh, we are changing all the time whether we accept it or not. Your beliefs and perceptions are changing simply by observing yourself. When you observe your mind you get insight, you learn something new and then next time you go even deeper and get different insight and so on. It is a never-ending process. There is an intention behind that observation. Without an intention you will not remember to observe your mind. That intention is a thought. Thought is mind and the mind is changing all the time. You are changing all the time and you are also observing yourself.

      Just tell me, why you observe yourself (or your mind) for many years? Because you are changing all the time. Otherwise there is no reason to observe yourself again and again. You are an observer and you are changing all the time… and you are also observing yourself changing all the time.

      1. Thanks for the reply MG

        Now I see what you meant by observer. Yes, the mind is changing all the time and so is the way mind is observing.

        But are you your mind? The thoughts? The way you’re observing the thoughts? Or the awareness in which all this is happening? The background? What do you call that, if not awareness? Because in my perception, it doesn’t change. It has always been the same. It’s the same whether I’m being alert or not. Or whether I’m even aware of it or not.

        And on that point, I don’t think spiritual teachers tell you to watch your thoughts, emotions, and so on with the intention to become aware of them all. I’ve understood it’s just to get understanding. And to disindentify from them (“here am I, watching the thoughts, and there are the thoughts –> I’m not the thoughts”)

        So what is your take on that?

        1. I absolutely agree with Kapeh on this. Awareness or consciousness is the background on which the process called ‘mind’ is happening. But the problem is that we are so engrossed in the mind that we have completely lost touch with the background, and identify ourselves as the mind.
          To exclusively experience this awareness, it needs to be cultivated through meditation. Only then, we will be able to clearly distinguish between the mind and the awareness. The activity of the mind needs to die out completely.

        2. As long as you are identified with thoughts and emotions you are the mind. For example when you get angry, you and the anger are not separate. In that moment you are the anger. But a part of your mind detach itself from anger and start observing the anger. Soon you find that the anger is disappeared and there is silence. Then you are not giving energy to the anger. Then you are alert and collected.

          That silence is like an ocean and the anger was like waves in the ocean. Now the waves of anger are disappeared and the ocean is calm. Ocean is the background which never change but most people get identified with the waves. You said that the background never change, it is the same. From your perspective it is right because you are focused on the background.

          But the ocean is not only the silent background. It is also waves. If you look at the whole picture then everything is moving.

          The observer and the observed are not separate things. They are one. That’s why when you look at a sunset you become calm. When you look at the violence and hunger you become sad. The observed affects the observer. And if there is nothing to observe then you can not say that there is an observer. It will be absurd.

          Look at a book, if you look only the space between the words then it is the same. It is not changing. But the book is not only the white space. It is also the words written on it. Without the white space book is impossible but it is also true that you can not call it a book without words.

          Some people give example of a movie screen that the movie screen is the same and only images are moving but without ‘moving images’ what is the point to call it a movie screen? A mirror remains the same that is true but it reflect images that’s why you call it a mirror otherwise there will be no difference between a stone and a mirror.

          In my view a mirror means empty glass and reflections, a book means empty space and words, movie screen means empty screen with moving pictures and ocean means silent background with waves. They can not exist without each other

          1. “As long as you are identified with thoughts and emotions you are the mind. For example when you get angry, you and the anger are not separate.”

            I don’t see that this is so. Even if I think I’m a bird I’m not a bird? I just don’t know what I am then.

            If I was my anger when identified with it, how could I find myself by looking for myself (for example by “trying to see the looker”). Shouldn’t I then just find the anger if I was the anger?

            So you say I’m both the changing and unchanging parts? You say “The observer and the observed are not separate things.”
            So I’m both the observer and observed? But I don’t see this to be so. It makes more sense that I’m the unchanging part, because it’s the one seeing the changing part, and it doesn’t change. It’s a constant. And it makes sense that if I refer to myself, that I am something that stays the same. My intuition just says it’s me

            And back to my original question: You said “This observer is created by the thought, by the desire to get freedom or to become enlightened. You can not remain alert without the intention of being alert and that intention itself is a thought.”

            Do you mean that the observer is literally created by thoughts? Or that they a whole? Or? Because the way I see it is that the thoughts happen in the background. Not the other way around (that the thoughts create the background).

            So at one level I see kinda what you mean, but at the same time I don’t understand. Could you give me some exercises or something to help me understand?

            Thanks for your patience MG! I just recently stumbled into this and am trying to understand it better.

            1. Kapeh, it is okay if my views are not matching with your experience. You should stay true only to yourself and your own experience. If you find peace, happiness, love and awareness by following your intuitions then other things are not much important. Personally I don’t find anything wrong with your views.

              In my opinion your observation is more important for you than my interpretations.

              Truth can be experienced or expressed only through silence. Here I’m using words and there is every possibility of misunderstanding or being wrong.

              If you find something helpful on this blog then take it but if you find something which is not helpful to you or contradictory to your experience then discard it. My suggestion to everyone is only to ‘live in the present moment and observe your mind’ and that is more than enough. Finally your all questions and doubts will disappear. You will not get any answer but your questions will disappear.

              Man is living in a sleepy state and my message is only ‘get awake’ and that’s all.

              Being honest to yourself and listening to your heart is the most important thing on this path. If you find that your experience is totally different than what I’m telling here then you should trust your own experience.

  6. Dear MG,

    Could you explain a few things here? You said “When you observe your mind you learn something new and then next time you go even deeper and get different insight and so on”. My question is- who is this ‘you’ that observes the mind? by this you are implying that there is an awareness which is separate from the mind. I agree that the mind changes all the time, but how can you prove that the awareness also changes..? The awareness is completely beyond thoughts, space and time. So what are the parameters that show this awareness changes? as far as our mind is concerned, we can easily figure out when it changes because our thoughts change.

    1. Jake, can you separate waves from the ocean? In dictionary you will find waves and ocean are two different words but in reality they are not two different things. Normally you get identified with body, thoughts and emotions. Then someone comes along and says, “Hey, you are not thoughts, you are not body, you are an observer, you are awareness”. Then most people who are walking on the spiritual path starts repeating, “I’m not body, I’m not mind, I’m only awareness”.

      The observer and the observed are not two separate things. You can say that the mind has capacity to observe itself or you can also say awareness has capacity to think and create the illusion of time.

      I remember a short story in the Upanishads that two birds were sitting on a tree, one on the topmost branch, with eyes closed, immersed in silence and the other on the lower branches of tree scampering from one branch to another, totally in the state of restlessness. Growing tired of its restless attitude, hungry for this fruit and hankering for that flower, competing, quarreling and growing jealous, the bird looked up to see the other perched upon the highest branch, calm and composed. Drawn by its composure, the restless bird hops upwards, going closer to the other and ultimately becoming one with it.

      These two birds are two aspects of the same consciousness. When you become fade up of your restlessness you move upward towards the higher state of consciousness which is calm and silent and ultimately become one with it.

      The mind, turned outwards, results in thoughts and objects. Turned inwards, it becomes itself the Self. In turning the mind inwards we are still employing the mind. Only with the help of the mind can the mind become free.

      1. (You can delete this if this is a double post. I first sent one, but it didn’t show up, so I made a new one)

        About your identity. The classic way has been to point that your body and mind changes all the time, and you can observe them. So you can’t be them. You’re the one/thing/whatever sees that all. The thing that doesn’t change.

        What do you mean by mind? The thoughts and emotions, or something more? And in my experience the awareness doesn’t think. Thinking just happens in awareness. The mind observing itself happens in awareness.

        I don’t understand that story. I don’t think I become anything else. I already am myself. What changes is the belief about what I am. Or rather the belief that I am the mind gets crumbled my looking with the intention to see myself. And then what is the problem even if the mind is restless, if I don’t identify myself with it?

        “In turning the mind inwards we are still employing the mind. Only with the help of the mind can the mind become free. ”

        So the inquiry to see yourself happens within the mind. Within the belief that you are your mind. Who then becomes free? The mind? “I”? But wasn’t “I” always free already? So what happens is that the belief (that you are your mind) gets done away with?

        What do you comment on that? And sorry if the text is a bit confusing, it’s because I’m a bit confused (or the mind is? :D). I just stumbled into this recently and am trying to understand it better. Thanks for your patience MG!

        1. Hello, all comments are published after moderation because I get lots of spam and I have to go through it. I replied your previous comments and I found this one in spam. To answer this question I would like to give you an example of ocean. On the surface there are waves but deep down there are no waves. The same way on the surface there are thoughts and emotions but deep down there is only silence (or awareness). When you live on the surface you get identified with waves but when you go deeper you realize that you are the ocean.

        2. Kapeh,

          Here is how i understand this. The process called the ‘mind’ happens in the awareness. At a deeper level, it is the awareness which gives rise to the thoughts. What the mind contains is a huge amount of information that it has gathered through its lifetime- your past experiences, your environmental conditioning, your personality etc. It uses this information to create a local ‘self’ that identifies itself as the body. The illusion that the mind creates with the help of sensory input is very strong and compelling. Everyone identifies themselves as the ‘local’ self, because there is nothing else to identify themselves with. This local self has limitations and has to live within boundaries, therefore is not free.
          Things start to change when you turn the attention of the mind inward. Through the process of proper meditation and self inquiry, the mind starts to experience the awareness which is at the source of all creation. The awareness i.e ‘I’ cannot be experienced in the presence of thought as the thoughts are illusory. Self realization happens when the awareness experiences itself though the mind. Its like looking at itself in the mirror- and saying ‘this too is me’
          This can be difficult to understand as we haven’t really experienced it. Our minds aren’t awake or expanded enough to grasp this reality at this moment.
          The fact remains that no amount of information will help in this realization. It is the experience alone that will help in removing the confusion. As the popular saying goes ‘the taste of pudding is in eating’. Be a regular meditator, and you’ll get there soon enough.

  7. Hi MG,
    Confusion here for me-
    Listening to your heart :- I heard this phrase lots of times everywhere in movies n books. What exactly it is? What is heart and what is Mind? are they really different ? How to listen to this heart and not the changing mind. I never experienced Heart speaking something.
    And being honest to yourself – being honest to whom if mind is changing all the time?
    If you take example of Mirror and Reflections that you gave in earlier reply then Whom to trust and whom to listen ? A plain Mirror without any reflections or only reflections or both ?
    Nothing is clear to Me.

    1. Sam, if nothing is clear to you then just clear your mind, clear your thoughts and be silent.
      There is no need to understand all this bullshit.

    1. What if I say there is no ‘how’?
      Sam, either you become silent or you do not.
      There is no ‘how’.
      Because ‘how’ implies time, future. You can not become silent in the future. It is now or never. Right now you have to become silent or there is no way.

  8. I don’t understand why everyone is asking questions to this [edit]. If you read through the post, and his replies….half of the time he doesn’t know what the hell he is talking about. He contradicts himself over and over again. How can a person who himself is in darkness guide others in the proper direction?

    I urge people to look for answer’s in the right places, and not somebody who calls himself a ‘guru’. His comments are so goddamn laughable, i think you should venture into a some sort of a comic, as that would come out naturally from you. Sorry to break this to you, but spirituality is just not your thing. I just read the above reply from this [edit], he says:

    ‘What if I say there is no ‘how’?
    Sam, either you become silent or you do not.
    There is no ‘how’.
    Because ‘how’ implies time, future. You can not become silent in the future. It is now or never. Right now you have to become silent or there is no way’

    OK, firstly who [edit] you to say there is no ‘how’…? How can person become silent spontaneously? and what the hell do you think meditation is for? ‘how implies time and future’ lmao, seriously..? I think you probably forgot to take your meds today…

    I know you will come up with a wise [edit] reply to this, and try to insult or abuse me back, but that would be ok- as i need to get this message across to people.

    1. James, I have to edit your comment to remove some abusive words. The reason is that some decent people also visit this blog. Still I published your comment to get your message across to people.

  9. MG
    When you say clear the mind and be silent, arent u suggesting what sages have been suggesting since aeons? Meditate…for that’s the way to do what you yourself said(clearing the mind).
    As for proof…
    1. One shud hv a scientific approach..Upanishands and Buddhists texts especially tell you not to believe but to BE and BECOME…ppl spend 8 hours a day meditating and then reach conclusions
    2. how would you account for scientific insights in Vedas ? (RV 1.50.4)
    “tatha ca smaryate yojananam. sahasre dve dve sate dve ca yojane ekena nimishardhena kramaman”
    तथा च स्मर्यते योजनानां सहस्त्रं द्वे द्वे शते द्वे च योजने एकेन निमिषार्धेन क्रममाण नमोऽस्तुते॥
    “[O Sun,] bow to you, you who traverse 2,202 yojanas in half a nimesha.”.
    Strictly speaking, Rig Ved here attributes a (fantastically high) speed to the Sun (Surya- being considered a symbol for light). Depending on what values one assumes for a yojana and for a nimesha, this speed corresponds to about 186,000 miles per second, roughly equal to the speed of light. This was pointed out by P.V. Vartak in his Scientific Knowledge in the Vedas (1995, p. 95).[3]
    1 yojana is said to comprise either 4 or 8 krosha (a cry or shout, or the range of the voice in calling); and 1 krosha (or goruta ~ as far as a cow’s lowing may be heard, or a bull’s roar) may represent either 1000 or 2000 daNDa (a rod or staff), and 1 danda represents 1 pauruSa (a man’s length) which equals 1 dhanvantara (bow-string) or dhanu (bow). 1 yojana measures either 4,000 or (more likely) 8,000 dhanus. Assuming that 1 paurusha is 6 ft long, then 1 yojana must represent a distance of about 14.6 km (or about 9 miles, as suggested by Monier-Williams).
    nimesa means shutting the eye or winking, and as a measure of time it is a wink of the eye or a moment. The Arthashastra (c. 300 BC) defines 1 nimesa as 1/360,000th of a day and night, i.e. 0.24 seconds.
    Given that 1 yojana is between 14.6 and 16.4 km, 2,202 yojanas must represent between 32,149 and 36,113 km. Half a nimesha is 0.12 seconds. Sayana thus gives the “speed of the Sun” as between 267,910 and 300,940 km/sec, i.e. the same order of magnitude as the speed of light at 299,792 km/sec.
    -commentator is Sayan(died in 1387)

  10. I can see, there have been no comments on this blog ever since November 27.. Is it still active? If so please reply in affirmative

    1. Thank you Bhavik for your comment. This blog is alive and there are many regular visitors. It does not matter if they drop any comment or not. I will always keep writing as long as I am alive. I believe that people enjoy my posts and perhaps they don’t have any question regarding my articles. I try my best to post at least one or two articles every month. I want to post at least 10 articles every month but not getting much time.

  11. Many times I have watched a documentary video on you tube channel, SPIRITUAL REALITY POWER OF MEDITATION, and in different languages. I found it of great interest and stopped my normal routine system of prayer and also stopped buying any more books on meditation or kundalini yoga. Please guide me
    Thank You

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