FACT: This moment… the very word “Meditation” is used by all Gurus to make money, sell silly books, techniques, pillows, crystals, mantras, and incense.
EXPOSING THEIR DECEPTION MAY BE THE ONLY WAY FOR EVERYONE TO GET ENLIGHTENED! – MG
Please do not download this e-Book if you are not ready to wake up and change right now.
IT IS STRONGLY RECOMMENDED THAT YOU READ THIS BOOK IN ORDER, FROM BEGINNING TO END, AS SECRETS ARE BUILT ON TOP OF ONE-ANOTHER, AND UNDERSTANDING OF THE SECRETS IS NECESSARY TO FOLLOW LATER INTERPRETATIONS AND ANALYSIS.
THE SECRET is really One! But divided into Ten, just for YOUR convenience.
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nice book, concise and to the point, but who are you?
Bookmarked!
Thank you, thank you, thank you.
check it out, its very cool…
how to contact you,how to talk to you?can i talk to you,im confused with so many gurus so many truth(though its the only one),so many techniques,so many tries,so many confusions…my confusion is at paek im planning to drop this all n just live like other sleepin people all around at least i will not be in confusion about this spiritualism,mysticism,help me to destroy me n feel that lies exits evrywhere,in everyone ,tsht is sat chit anand,(its just a very bookish ,im sort ot nerd read so many ,evrything just confused me rather clear my doubts,n ur ten secret too did the same)
screw all of them – do what you think is right. And stay open to the Creator (no guarantee – but no harm…).
What is done hurting none is correct rightdoing with no liability for wrongdoing to the extent it is backed by undisputed science controlled by Laws of Nature. The Ten Dirty Secrets of Getting Enlightened reveals “might is right” as evil mankind’s mastermind that reveals what it conceals: wrongdoing. JUSTICE AUTOPSY (TM) Authored by Hon. Chief Justice G. G. Gavel.
Reply to above (Anonymous) comment:
How can you drop the confusion, it’s not something different from you, it’s YOU. Every book or guru is going to confuse you because map is not the territory. Live with your confusion and don’t try to run away from this state because you can not. Once you accept and become ready to live with this FACT instantly there is no confusion. See, you tried many gurus and many techniques ok? And “The Ten Dirty Secrets…” also did the same, now realize that “help is not outside” and “inside you don’t know anything”, accept this FACT. In this acceptance there is peace.
I can not download the ebook please help it just goes back to the home page
hello yipyip,
most probably u click on the title of the post (ie. Download eBook), instead of that click on the photograph or there is a link in red color (Download) click on that link, i cheak the link its working properly, anyway i am sending u the book on ur gmail ID.
Sai Ram. Very powerful stuff concealed in some humorous, funny and shitty language!
Thank you Sir!
Please do not download this e-Book if you are not ready to wake up and change right now.
Downloaded it long time ago but i m not ready yet i think.. still confused.
why do you chose to think that u are not ready yet? r u really confused or attached to the known?
MG: To my “mind” you seemed to be preaching ZEN in new age language. Still it is enlightening. Thank you.
Thank you Sam for your comment.
Not exactly Zen, actually my knowledge of zen is limited upto few Zen stories.
I’m just making things simple and avoiding unneccessary complications created in the name of meditation.
This is great, and much like a simplified version of Tibetan Dzogchen or real in your face zen. Both of which can lead one to oneness within this lifetime. I/you/we thank you/me/us.
Thank you Jidun for your comment
What are your background MG?
I feel stuck at life, fear in everything, career, women, life in general, broke! Living with my parents, is there really a way out?
People can feel stuck and broke even if they are rich, having good career and hot women.Everyone is having this feeling and to run away from this feeling people chase money and women but it remains. A poet says ‘miles and miles to go before I sleep’.
People are running miles and miles after sex and money to get free from this feeling.
Stop, look inside.
Even if you become a billionaire fear will remain, so go to the roots. Watch closely this fear and emptiness, and you will find the way out.
I had already downloaded your books when they were free.
Why you are charging money to opinions now?
This is not contradictory with what you already claim?
I was planing to move this blog on paid hosting to get more bandwidth, speed and space (right now it is hosted on a free server) and use professional SEO themes that’s why I tried to sell my books but now I have changed my plan and books will be free again in one or two days (because I’m using the world’s slowest BSNL internet connection..lol). And very soon I will implement all the changes I mentioned above. I’m using a free theme since last month designed by Vladimir Prelovac along with his all-in-one-seo plug in and SEO smart links plug in. It gives me most of the benefits I need, free of cost.
Thank you Gerold, life is purposeless and meaningless. Yes we can give it a meaning and a purpose but it is given by us. And a meaning given by us has no meaning at all. Life is not moving towards any goal. You asked Why we came on earth … live … and die.. reincarnate? And my reply to this question, don’t bother. Don’t ask ‘WHY’. Even scientist and philosophers are confused on this question, and enlightened masters have contradictory opinions on this matter. So my simple answer to your question is as long as you are alive enjoy every moment. And when the time comes die peacefully without asking any question, because it is wastage of time. You can search for this ‘why’ for your whole life without getting any answer, so just drop that ‘why’ and enjoy life
I laughed when people left comments asking, “nice book, but who are you?” Guess what, it’s just some guy trying to make some money by writing an ebook. He’s probably not “enlightened”. Probably just one of the many many people who read some stuff about enlightenment, and decided to write about it. It’s good this person at least isn’t fooled by the spiritual crap, but is this person actually elightened? I would bet not.
“J” first thing my books are free to download.
Second thing I have average 100 visitors everyday. So there is no question of earning money on this blog.
Third thing the very word enlightenment is crap. This word has no meaning at all. All spiritual experiences are mental projections.
So called “no-mind” experience is also “mind”.
You said, “is this person actually elightened? I would bet not.”
What is enlightenment to you? Do you know me? Do you have any instrument to find out who is enlightened and who is not?
And who is enlightened according to your “belief”?
I’m against all spiritual experiences. They all exist within the boundaries of mind. There is no such thing as freedom from mind. There is no state of no-mind. Yes you can create that state within 30 seconds but don’t become a slave of some guru just for getting into that state.
You said, “It’s good this person at least isn’t fooled by the spiritual crap” and I say that is what real enlightenment is.
Enlightenment is to understand that all spirituality is SHIT.
Thank you for your comment.
Well stated – thanks!
Thanks Aner!
Hi MG,
One quick question , As you said above in one of the responses, how come “no-mind” is also a “mind”?
Amit, mind is constantly chattering and this mind wants to stop for a moment and this is our ‘no-mind’ state. After few minutes mind will say, “Now this is enough for today” and it will start to work again.
In deep silence there will be few thoughts and the mind will say, “Hmm, this is Nirvana, this is Samadhi”. You know, mind is working all the time in the background.
The mind is calculating, “Today I go deeper in meditation than yesterday. I’m better than 90% people out there. I have done 2 years dynamic meditation and 5 years transcendental meditation. I meditate everyday for half an hour”. This is mind. It keeps all record of ‘no-mind’.
The mind also says, “Now I have dropped all techniques after reading Krishnamurti so I’m on the pathless land.”
See, this is mind. The mind is constantly making fool in subtle ways.
Mind knows that you have entered into a ‘no-mind’ state and now it’s time to come back into the normal world. You are exactly the same person after coming back from this so called ‘no-mind’ state.
Hello MG,
You said “There is no such thing as freedom from mind. There is no state of no-mind. Yes you can create that state within 30 seconds…..”
Please explain if there is no state of no mind then how can it be created.
Rajan, in so called meditation techniques mind simply slows down. The thinking process becomes slower. It seems no-mind but mind still exist with all its content (for example fear, anger, addiction etc).
It is possible to stop your mind within 30 seconds and become completely detached or silent but this state will not remain forever.
In my view it is not important to chase this so called ‘no-mind’ state or stop your thinking process. It is more important to understand the hidden motives of your mind than to enter into ‘no-mind’ state. When you try to enter into ‘no-mind’ state using some technique then that trying itself is the mind because there is a hidden desire to attain ‘no-mind’ state.
If you observe people who belong to some commune, ashram or monastery then you will understand what I’m trying to say. These people regularly enter into this state of silence or ‘no-mind’ but they are not much different then ordinary people. You will see the same competition, ambition and politics. That means it is more important to observe and understand the mind then to directly enter into the ‘no-mind’. You need to have great thirst and curiosity to understand the whole process of mind. But you will see that most people who are on the spiritual quest only want to know how to stop the mind. If they could silent their mind for half an hour they become satisfied.
Your mind could become silent if you listen to music, bhajan, kirtan, stasang, watch a movie or spend some time in the nature. You can even slow down your thinking for one or two hours. But that will not end your ignorance or stupidity. Mind is constantly chattering and you can slow down that chattering for some time but it will not end the mind-game. You have to find out why your mind is constantly occupied with thoughts only then your mind will become naturally silent without using any technique of meditation. Then you will not be dependent on any technique, book or guru.
Your mind naturally becomes silent when you carefully observe its working and find out the reason of disorder. Then there will be a natural order in your life. Simply going into a ‘no-mind’ state and coming back will give you some relief or relaxation but it will not bring you clarity, understanding, maturity and intelligence (Not cunning intelligence but intelligence which is love).
Your mind is like a computer. Entering into a no-mind state is like to shut down the computer. Any idiot can do this. But if you really want to understand the working of the computer then you should learn how Windows or Linux works. Then you will become the master of computer. The same way you have to observe and understand the working of your mind. You have to observe it in action for example when you are angry or fearful. You have to observe what is fear, what is anger, how emotions arise, how you feel inferior or superior. You have to observe all this stuff very carefully.
If there is fear then instead of going into ‘no-mind’ state you should observe the whole process of fear and go to the roots only then your mind will become naturally silent. This silence will come naturally because of the understanding of fear. Otherwise the moment you come back from so called ‘no-mind’ state there will be fear waiting for you.
Yes there is a ‘no-mind’ state but it is not outcome of any meditation technique. It comes naturally when you understand the hidden motives of your actions, emotions and thoughts. It comes naturally when you are not chasing it. Then it is not a product of your mind. When it comes your mind does not say, “Yes, this is it!” You should completely forget about this state and focus only on observing your mind without any motive or goal.
Thanks for this wonderful reply. But we forget to observe mind in daily routine life.This “forgetfulness” is main problem , atleast for me.Sometimes I remember and sometimes not. How can this rememberance ( to observe mind) be increased, so that maximum time , we can remain aware of this mind.
Should we also devote some separate time to observe mind.
Rajan, you asked, “How can this remembrance (to observe mind)be increased so that maximum time we can remain aware of this mind?”
This demand to increase the remembrance is mind. Simply observe this and this demand will disappear. There should be no demand to increase the time of awareness. Even if you can watch your mind for few seconds or minutes it will be okay. In that brief moments of alertness there will be clarity and understanding. This brief moments of alertness will show you the path for right action in any situation.
You said, “We forget to observe mind in daily routine life. This ‘forgetfulness’ is main problem”
No, not at all. It is okay to forget to observe your mind because you will remember again and again to observe it. The moment you remember that you ‘forget’ you suddenly become ‘aware’. In forgetfulness your mind creates mess and when you observe this mess again you become more alert and watchful. If you are going naturally through brief moments of alertness after one or two hours then also it is okay. Don’t make this ‘forgetfulness’ a big problem.
You can devote some time to observe mind but it should not become a habit or ritual. It should be spontaneous. Sometimes it is good to close your eyes and observe what is going on in your mind. It will give you lots of understanding. Your mind will also become calm and relax. But there should be no hidden motive behind this observation for example getting enlightenment or peace of mind. There should be no longing to reach anywhere.
If you feel anger or depression then find some quite place and observe how your mind creates particular thoughts, moods and emotions. This observation will bring natural peace and order.
It is okay even if you forget to observe your mind for two or three day or weeks. Don’t make this watchfulness an obsession otherwise it will become a problem. Do not try to increase the time of awareness, simply remain aware naturally for as long as you can and forget about it. Being alert should not become an ego trip. The moment you say my awareness is bigger than thou…you are finished.
Very well said MG
This May sound like a Stupid question but …. How to observe mind?
Amit, it is very simple to observe the mind. There is no special technique for it. You can observe your mind simply as you look at trees, clouds or traffic on the road. I can understand your difficulty because when you close your eyes you can see only darkness. That’s why you are asking how to observe the mind. When you look inside you can not see anything but still you can listen that little voice going all the time in your head. You can listen to your own thoughts. You can feel your emotions. Suppose somebody insults you, suddenly you feel discomfort in your body. You feel hurt. Observe what is that feeling you call hurt. Do not try to run away from that feeling or don’t try to suppress it. Simply observe that feeling.
When you become angry observe (or listen) which thoughts are running inside your mind because those thoughts are causing the anger. Do not say that anger is bad, I have to get rid of this anger. No, simply notice which thoughts are coming in your mind. Observe the sensations on your body. Notice which physical part is getting tense. Notice how your breathing is getting changed. Observe your gestures and your tone of voice. When you get angry there are hundreds of things going on simultaneously. Also listen to the sounds that are going around you. Become more alert and aware. Be in the moment.
Mind is never the same. It is constantly changing. Clouds of thoughts and emotions come and go. Every moment something new is happening. It is the most interesting thing in life to observe the mind. If you keep observing your mind then one day you will realize that there is no mind. You will see that thoughts and emotions are simply floating in empty sky.
Thanks.
Dear MG
How to stop the inner chattering when observing the mind? My mind is chattering all the time!
Vasu, by concentrating on the destination, you fail to enjoy the journey. Don’t try to stop the inner chattering only keep watching the mind. It is the nature of mind to keep chattering all the time otherwise it will not survive. To stop the inner chattering is like death to the mind. Second thing who is going to stop the chattering? This desire to stop the inner chattering is the mind itself. The same mind which is chattering all the time also want to stop this chattering. This desire to stop the mind is born in the mind. This is mind game. Just look at this game. Just try to understand the subtle ways of the mind. That understanding itself will end the constant chattering of the mind. When you ask how to stop this constant chattering mind is playing trick on you. This mind will find hundred techniques to stop the chattering. And you will get engaged forever in those techniques. You will find gurus, you will read books but this is all mind games.
When you become aware of this tricks then you never become victim of your mind. You simply have to become more and more watchful and alert. There is no other way except to understand how mind plays tricks upon you. When you observe all these tricks and games carefully you automatically escape from the trap. So do not try to stop this chattering. Simply observe it.
Dear MG
Thank you so much for the the explanation, i have tried to meditate and quieten the mind in the past and it never worked, This is the first time i observed my mind for few seconds and it worked.I think what you suggested is easy to do but to remember to do is the problem but i am not anxious about this, i know it will become second nature in time.
Can I ask your opinion of Law of attraction?.
what do you think of gratitude?
I don’t know whether you heard about the book “The secret”, Do you think we can achieve whatever we we want
Grateful for your answer
Vasu
Vasu, the Law of Attraction says, if you know what you want, ask the universe for it, visualize it being yours, be open to receiving it and letting go of the outcome then you will get what you want.
However they forget that you have to WORK for it!
Joe Vitale can not grow hair on his head by simply using the Law of Attraction.
They say “LOA does work every time – no exceptions”. But it doesn’t work everytime like other laws. For example think about the law of gravity, the math for Newton’s laws works every time without exception.
Suppose you and your firend loves the same girl and you both visualize her being yours then who will win? And suppose she visualize someone else then what will be the end of the story?
Are you getting my point?
Can you reverse your age by using the Law of Attraction?
It is another thing that you can convince your mind up to certain level by using visulization or by repeating affirmations but still it is NOT possible to achieve everything otherwise everyone will win a gold medal in Olympics.
It is a popular trick now days to give legitimacy to sell their product by claiming it has scientific backing. That’s why they say that The Law of Attraction is based on Quantum Physics. But is a distortion of Quantum Physics. This law is never tasted in any laboratory. They (LOA people) give only ‘anecdotal evidence’ to support the Law of Attraction. They never give any mathematical equation.
The movie ‘The Secret’ was creted by Rhonda Byrne but it was not her original idea. Napoleon Hill wroteThink and Grow Rich many years before ‘The Secret’. These products instantly get popular because most of us are searching for EASY ways to fulfill our unfulfilled desires.
Your desire makes you blind and that’s why you want to believe in the unbelivable.
It is not the Law of Attraction which attract things towards you. Actually when you want any object you automatically focus on it more and more. You think about it again and again to find a suitable way to your desired object. You become more aware about different possibilities and someday you MAY get that object of your desire.
It is not a magic but there is a logic behind it. And it does not works everytime.
You never atrract or manifest things magically in your life rather you have to work for them. Your visualization does not attract things towards you but it only gives you more hope that it is possible. Visualization only strengthen your belief but you have to work for it (to get the desired object).
Suppose you want a BMW then suddenly you will see more BMW’s on the road but it is not a magic. They were always running there on the road but you were not aware. When you decide to buy a BMW suddenly you become more aware about BMW and you notice them more on the road. In that way you are NOT attracting them, you are only becoming more AWARE about them. See the difference.
You also asked, “What do you think of gratitude?”
LOA suggest that you should feel grateful to attract more good things in your life and I say if you really feel grateful then you will never desire anything more in your life. LOA suggest to forcefully shift your focus on gratitude. But in my view gratitude comes naturally when you realize who you are and what you already have.
Gratitude is fullness.
In gratitude you don’t want anything more in your life. Then you are already overflowing with joy and happiness. Then you don’t feel grateful for having a second-hand Hero-Honda just to attract a brand new Mercedes Benz because LOA says if you feel grateful for your old car then you will attract a new car. But most people buy a new car because they get irritate of their old car.
Gratitude is not a tool to attract more things in your life. It is a destination.
A person who is really grateful will never try to attract things in his life. He is already full. Then it doesn’t matter whether he has got a Hero-Honda or a Mercedes Benz or just a bicycle.
There is NO desire.
Thanks a lot MG
I agree with you.
Having gratitude make my life happier, but it does not take away my desire to have more
Why can’t I be grateful for the Hero-Honda i have now and wish and work for Mercedes Benz? Won’t it work you think?
I am so grateful for your reply
Vasu
Vasu, very few people feel gratitude. Gratitude is awareness of what you already you have. You are counting blessings when you feel grateful. You are focusing on good side of your life when you feel gratitude. Gratitude is a way to increase your awareness because you become more and more aware of the things which makes you feel good.
Second thing there is no need to take away the desire to have more. In the root of all progress there is a seed of desire. You can be grateful for the Hero Honda and work for Mercedes Benz but only gratitude will not magnetize Mercedes Benz in your life. You will have to work for it.
You will have to workout on ‘How?’ and LOA people try to bypass the ‘How?’. They only focus on ‘What?’. According to their view you should know what exactly you want, you should write it on paper, you should visualize that you already have that object of your desire and then you should let go and be open to receive it. In my view you should have a clear vision of what you want but you should also have a WORKABLE PLAN. Just dreaming and having gratitude will not take you anywhere.
LOA is good for changing your mindset and developing more positive attitude towards life in general. But when they say that you can just ‘think and grow rich’ then they are exaggerating things. There is a book by Wayne Dyer ‘You will see it when you believe it’. You will not see it just by believing it. Sometimes you need to work on it for years to bring it in reality. It is not that easy. To bring your imagination into reality you need to do hard work as well as smart work.
For example John is skinny and he wants to become a body builder. Then he should follow the following steps:
1) He should set a goal of becoming a body builder and write it on a paper (Commitment).
2) He should regularly imagine himself as a bodybuilder so that his mind will start believing that it is possible to achieve his goal and it can happen. (Visualization)
3) And finally comes the most important thing that is he should join a gym and do workout for years and years. Only then someday he will become a body builder. (Hard work)
4) He will start getting the results in first few months. If he feel gratitude for his small success then he will feel more enthusiasm. (Gratitude)
5) If he take advice from a good fitness instructor then the results will be even faster. (Smart work)
But in all this scenario his daily workout in gym has the biggest role in achieving his dream. Without daily workout he will never become a body builder. He can bypass all other steps if he regularly go to the gym.
Well said MG
I very much like the clarity in your answer, Eventhough I knew the stuff you mentioned, your are very bold and to the point. Not many people can say it with this amount of clarity. I am ever so grateful.
I am oberseving my my mind for 30 second or more. I hope I will do this more offten!
What is your opinion in oneness? Have you ever felt it, or are you in that state all the time? I know you will say it is the mind projection or mind illusion!
I have read so much about this. I really really want to feel this oneness at least once, so that i can come out of this “little me” concept.
However much i tried, I still feel the seperation all the time, sometimes less sometimes more.
Is there any thing I can do, apart form observing the mind?
Thank you so much
Vasu
There is nothing you can do except to observe the subtle ways of the mind.
You asked, “What is your opinion in oneness? Have you ever felt it, or are you in that state all the time?”
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I can only remain silent on this question.
Why you want to know my opinion about oneness?
Is it because all scriptures are describing the state of oneness?
Mind wants to know that state of oneness but the mind can never know that state. When the mind becomes quite there is oneness. It is not like you feel oneness rather it is like you disappear into oneness. Then there is no ‘me’, then there is no mind to feel or record this oneness. You asked, “are you in that state all the time?” but this is a wrong question because time can not measure timelessness. If I answer you, “Yes, I have felt it and I am in that state all the time” then it will be a wrong statement.”
When your mind will become quite you will understand my difficulty. It is my experience that whatever I say instantly it becomes wrong.
You said, “I have read so much about this. I really really want to feel this oneness at least once, so that i can come out of this “little me” concept.”
I say forget whatever you read about this oneness because it is the mind. Just observe this ‘little me’ moment to moment. There is no hurry. If you want desperately to come out of this ‘little me’ then this wanting will become a barrier. You are focusing on the destination while I am saying that you should enjoy the journey and forget about the destination.
Dear MG
I found this on June 12011 reply to sandy
.”Take a hundred pages or two hundred pages notebook. And write down your all dreams and plans and goals. Write down what you want to do and what you don’t want to do. Written goals are messages to your subconscious mind. Once you get a clear idea then everything becomes very easy. Research says that more than 80% written goals manifest within a year or two. BE creative.
Visualize the life you want to manifest for yourself. Imagination is more powerful than will power. Imagine vividly your ideal life which you want to create for yourself. This regular exercise of conscious dreaming will create new neurological paths in your brain. And your life will transform. Live in the present moment but set 1000s of goals and achieve them. Goals improve every area of your life. Set goals for every area in your life”
It looks like you kind of agreeing with Loa, you have mentioned that 80% written goals manifest with in year or two, Please explain to me
Thanks
Vasu
Vasu, in my recent reply to your question I have already said that LOA is good for changing your mindset and developing more positive attitude towards life in general. Once you write something on a paper it is like a commitment and there is no chance to forget it. But that is not a magic.
I said 80% written goals will manifest within a year or two, the reason is that we can not achieve most of our goals simply because we forget them. Once you write them on a paper there is no chance to forget them. You can not remember 100 goals all the time in your mind that’s why I said that you should write them on the paper. They will not manifest magically in your life simply by writing on the paper but writing them will help you to remember them.
Imagination or visualization is a very powerful tool that too I can never deny. I said LOA is exaggerating the power of day dreaming too much. To have a dream is the first step but you have to take the action. You have to work on your dream to bring it into reality.
Hi MJ, is was searching some meditation stuff and landed on your blog, i read it and could not stop myself from posting a reply. You had wrote in some post “In my view you should have a clear vision of what you want but you should also have a WORKABLE PLAN” this is one of the many lines of yours that makes me feel that you have merged the spiritual knowledge with materialistic one in such a way that people are convinced because you are giving them hope that one day you will achieve what you plan. But person who is aware does not live in hope, he lives here and now. You have prepared a sort of khichdi which has a message in disguise to just follow your dreams/desires. But my friend desires are not dropped forcefully, once a person gets aware of himself desires evaporates automatically. And in that state of pure consciousness one realizes the reality of this existence. And folks i tell you if you are reading this blog you have a seeker in you, there are hundreds of techniques of meditation, see which suits you, n practice it, there is no other way, no body can fulfill you except yourself.
Vishal, You said, “And folks i tell you if you are reading this blog you have a seeker in you, there are hundreds of techniques of meditation, see which suits you, n practice it, there is no other way, no body can fulfill you except yourself.”
THIS IS A HOPE!
Your statement itself is full of hope.
You are hoping against hope that people will listen to your advice. That’s why you spend you precious five minutes to drop a comment on my blog!
Now tell me,
Is there a spiritual world different from a materialistic world?
Personally I don’t see two different worlds like spiritual and material. There is no border. They are two faces of the same coin. Everyday you must fulfill some of your material needs. You can not escape from that.
All goals are material. Even the goal of enlightenment is material. Most people think that enlightenment is endless pleasure. There will be no suffering and that’s why they chase enlightenment. So ‘enlightenment’ is also a material goal.
For example in your case, you are saying that there are hundreds of techniques of meditation. If you have already dropped your desire then why should you meditate?
If you are meditating then you are still trying to achieve something by doing meditation (living in future) and if you are not meditating then you can not advocate people that there are hundreds of techniques of meditation.
Do you think that the desire of enlightenment is different than the desire of money? A desire is just a desire.
They both are same. When you desire enlightenment then also you are focused on the future. When you do hundreds of techniques then you are focused on the future and you are moving forward in the hope.
You said, “…you have a seeker in you….” What is a seeker? A seeker is that person who is NOT satisfied with his ‘here and now’ or present.
A seeker is not satisfied with ‘WHAT IS’.
So he is moving forward with HOPE.
So if I tried to help or guide someone to solve his financial problem then what is wrong?
Some people will become happy when they find god but most people will become happy when they will find bread and butter.
What’s wrong in achieving something in life?
You are sitting in front of a computer but that computer was also a vision of someone and he worked on his vision to bring it into reality and that’s why you are able to comment on this blog.
If you don’t do anything to achieve your plans then your kids will die with hunger and poverty.
If everyone drop their desires, visions and plans and sit in a Buddha posture then half of the world will immediately die.
You said, “this is one of the line that makes me feel…”
See your feelings are your problem. You try your best to get over them by using your hundred techniques of getting enlightened.
If someone is fighting for food and ask me how to solve his basic financial problems or how to educate his children in a better school then I will definitely try my best to guide him to solve this problem instead of advocating him to drop his desires and get enlightened.
You said, “There are hundreds of techniques of meditation”.
Okay, tell me how many techniques you have done?
How many hours you spend practicing those techniques?
Since how long you are practicing all this garbage?
What you have got by doing all those techniques?
Why should one practice hundreds of techniques if there is no desire?
You stumbled upon my blog that only shows that you are still seeking for the truth, god or enlightenment in the darkness.
In your last line you said, “there are hundreds of techniques of meditation, see which suits you, n practice it,…”
Practice?
For what?
To achieve something, right?
You hope that if you practice some foolish technique for many years then one day god will appear in front of you. This is a hope. You are practicing hundred technique because you hope that someday you will get enlightened.
Hi MG, first of all thanks for considering my post and replying. MG you are right i’m not enlightened or have attained any buddhahood. But yes i do meditate. I you have done it ever or anybody who have been doing it will feel what i’m saying. Let me try again to explain. See sometime the word meditation itself confuses, lets not say it meditation, call it “dhyan”. Being indian its easy to feel the essence of word dhyan. When we sit for dhyan, the technique is to feel yourself, it starts with feeling the body, once your dyan goes to every part of your body your body naturally relaxes. This is very first and very easy step. If somebody is reading this comment please close your eyes and feel your body just for 3 min, say starting from feet to head. One will experience that at certain part of his body he himself was stressing it unkowingly. Once your dyan goes to such places your body natural tendency is to relax and it does so. Like we have read in school days that electron loves to be in a lower energy state/we could say electron wants to relax. i’l just give an example its a very famous example some of you may have heard it. And It also happens with all of us. Suppose if somebody’s house is on fire, and with the help of villagers he is trying to put off the fire. While doing that thorn struck in his foot. But at that very moment his dhyan was totally on putting off the fire so he could not feel the pain due to thorn. Later when fire if put off everything seems to be calmed he suddenly feels the pain in his foot. Because now his dhyan is removed from house and came back to himself. Thats how our dhyan works.
Now in meditation whole process is to move this dhyan deeper and deeper inside your being. And being materialistic means to move the same dyan to the outer world, to search position, to search respect, to search money, etc. Dyan is the same just the directions are opposite. Now one may question that what is the need to go deep inside when our whole life depends on outer world. My answer to this question is, if your want the answer you have to meditate. Because words are not enough to explain it. Its Like You try to teach a person who has never been in love, you can explain him lots of theories but to understand love, one has actually to be in love. Same is the case here.
So folks i dont force anybody to do meditation, but if somebody asks me which is the way to realize the self, there’s only one answer i give and that is meditation.
And MG dont misunderstand me when is say practice meditation, its not like we are practicing it to achieve something, its about realizing, there is lot of difference between achieving and realizing. Achieving is like invention, you invent something which does not exist. But realizing is like discovery, something is already their you just have to discover it. And the thing that already exists which we discover in process of dhyan is whatever you call, god, bhagwan, allah, etc.
In the end i’l just try to clarify the confusion about hope. If i go to any person and say him meditation is the way to get rid of hopes and live here and now, generally the person will start meditation with a hope that one day he will be able to live here and now. And once he start the journey one day he reaches that state. Remember story of gautam buddha, he had a hope that one day he will find some way to get rid of all sorrows and pains in life. And one day he did, n that day he was desireless, hopeless, living here and now. See journey started with hope ended with no hope. It was about the inner journey, and if the journey is outward (as i had already explained how dhyan direction are) selfrealization never occurs. One will invent computer, invent internet, invents blog etc. But will never discover his true being.
Vishal, did I ever talked on searching for position or respect?
I don’t know why you are exagrating things.
Money is needed for survival. If you don’t have money then you can not buy a computer or a cell phone. Without money life will become very miserable.
I’m not against money. I am against GREED.
Please try to undersatnd the difference.
I’m not agianst setting or achieving goals. I am not against future plans. I think one should have a sense of direction.
When I look around I could see there are many good people stuggling for getting financially stable. They are not able to provide proper education to their children.
Money is not evil.
Even if you want to do something good you need money. If you want to run an orphanage you need money. The problem comes only when people become greedy for money.
No doubt, to meditate (means to observe your thoughts and emotions) and to know yourself is very important but to feed your children, to provide better medication to your family members, to help the helpless people is also important. If every intelligent man have a vision and a workable plan for this then the world will become more happier. Just living here-and-now will not help much.
If you live here and now then you will become happy but if you have a vision for the world, if you have a workable plan to create wealth then you will also make the world happy. There is a huge difference between a GREEDY PERSON running after money and a CARING PERSON trying to create prosperity and wealth to make the world a better place.
From your reply it appears to me that you are a meditative person so I hope that you can understand my point of view.
In my perspective a person should be all rounder. He should be wealthy but he should NOT be greedy, power hungry or corrupt. He should be healthy, prosperous, loving and happy. He should progress in all directions. He should meditate to know himself but at the same time he should also focus on making his career. He should be peaceful and loving but he should know self defense and martial arts. He should not have any weaknesses in any area of his life. He should be able to move in all directions. He should be rooted in the present moment but he should also have a vision for the future. This is my view.
Dear i respect your view, but we do have a very thin line of difference in views, chalo ab aur baal ki khaal nahi utartey
, it was nice sharing views with you, best wishes.
Okay Vishal. some differences in views will always remain, after all we are all walking on different tracks. Here I would like to quote Bruce Lee, “Take what is useful, discard what is useless”.
Thank you, best wishes.